Dogs on climbing road trips?

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Anonymous
I'm planning a sort-of cross country trip for 3 weeks in July. I want to bring my rott, but don't know how it will work out with climbing. Brought her camping a few times and she's great, but looking for opinions as to climbing. If I stay in a motel I can leave her there and she'll be fine, but the point is to bring her with me. Will it be too hot? Will she be bored? Do most parks let dogs in (offleash?)? Any info would be great! :wink:  

17 Jan 2003 22:50
Anonymous
just bring her and see what happens.... Worst case u have to tie her to a tree or something............  

17 Jan 2003 22:51
Anonymous
An unleashed rottweiler in parks? While you're up on a cliff or simply hiking with your dog? Either way, I'm pretty sure the dog has to be leashed in national/state parks. YMMV.

But, wow, do you know how uncomfortable that can be for other folks in your vicinity if confronted with an unleashed rott? Seems to me that this could lead to some rather nasty confrontations.

Just my $.02  

17 Jan 2003 23:02
Anonymous
hate to say it, but depending on where you plan on climbing, the pooch may not be able to come with you. pretty much any place on federal land (especially national parks) will probably not allow dogs, or at the very least require them to be on a leash.  

17 Jan 2003 23:03
Anonymous
take yer dog...what would a road trip be without your dog? as far as climbing goes, just make sure you keep her out of the rope of other climbers (and yours). i know this probably sounds stupid, but you'd be surprised how many times other peoples dogs end up in/on my rope. i love dogs, have 2 of my own, but i still don't like other peoples dogs running free while i am belaying....i would guess people that don't like dogs REALLY don't like it when other peoples dogs are bothersome when they are climbing/belaying. just keep her on a leash, with plenty of water and some shade, and it should be fine. if you roll through ohio, let me know.  

17 Jan 2003 23:04
Anonymous
I feel your pain. I have a 7 month old black lab. He is already 115lbs, and there is no fat on him. He's a monster! I love him to death, and I take him hiking a lot. I even got him his own saddle pack, but when your climbing what do you do? Does she stay with you off of a leash? If so, then she may just lay at the base while you climb. I don't know if I would climb to high, and get out of her sight though. She may get worried, or worse what if someone tries to steal her. Being a Rott, she may rip their arms off, but Rott's are beautiful dogs, and there are strange people out there. I don't know what to tell you about the parks. I take my dog everywhere over here off of a leash. I take the leash with me though in case of a lot of people, because he loves attention, and knocks people over. Best thing I can say is check with the park ranger office. Maybe you can find someone to go with to watch the dog.  

17 Jan 2003 23:06
Anonymous
Your dog on a road trip? At climbing areas? And a dog that, by nature and your own admitted predisposition, is unused to the leash?

In a word: NO.

How 'bout this scenario... while you are climbing, lost in the splendor and glory of nature and achieving your own set of goals, I will come over and walk all over your rope with muddy feet, urinate/defecate within your belay area, and dig through your pack for loose snacks and goodies. Then I'll pick a fight with your belayer and hump your girlfriend's leg, after which I'll go dig a nice erosion jumpstart at the base of the wall, take a nap, wake up and chase some squirrels (from whom I could catch several virulent diseases including but not limited to black plague), and hurry back to do it all over again, after lunch.

How much of that would you put up with from a human being, a life form capable of saving your life if the chips are down?

Then why in the world would you want to subject other climbers and crags to that sort of behavior from a form of life whose principle contribution to human existance has been the eradication of leftovers?

In twenty-plus years of travel and climbing all over this wonderful land of ours, the NUMBER ONE problem I have seen at crags has not been apathetic climbers, or bad attitudes, or failure of maintenance. It has been dogs. I love 'em, I've owned 'em, but there is no denying that, no matter how well-trained you may delude yourself into believing them to be, dogs at the crags are access and impact issues all rolled up into a socially-oblivious ball with the safety-consciousness of a fern.

Unless you foresee a very real probability of getting stranded deep in the backcountry and subsequently needing extra supplies of protein and a new pair of furry boots, DON'T BRING YOUR DOG.  

17 Jan 2003 23:08
Anonymous
My exp with dogs:

I have one that I take everywhere when I climb. He is a little 40 lb cutie that is very shy and couldn't bite someone if he wanted because he'd be too busy running away. I leash him while climbing, and he kicks it in the shade. I carry food and H20 for him ALL THE TIME. He is a perfect climbing dog that likes the outdoors, and is mildly descent off leash and not scary at all!!

Once I went to Tahquitz (without dog) and there was a little beagle looking dog. It went completely crazy as I tried to walk by and attacked. It bit me on the leg hard enough to draw blood, so I had to clock it with my climbing helmet in the head pretty damn hard. I F**ked that little guy up pretty good too. His owner had not leashed him, and was too busy belaying to deal with his dog, and was in a high traffic area. I was really pissed with the guy and dog and was pretty tempted to have the dog put down.

If there is ANY chance that you dog will bite someone, and I mean ANY don't bring it. Keep it on leash at all times unless in a truly remote area. People will be scared of the dog!

Dogs are not allowed something like 200' from the road in national parks. You either have to leave them behind or dodge the fuzz. They are allowed on NO trails in national parks.  

17 Jan 2003 23:10
Anonymous
I like dogs but I don't like to bring them climbing because I try to be considerate of other people.

My last partner would bring her dog often. He's a good dog, but there were issues. Some people are scared to death of dogs, and I felt really bad when I saw the absolute fear in some people's eyes as they walked past him. Climbs that had tricky approach scrambles were difficult and dangerous to get to with the dog in tow. He would whine and wimper anytime my partner was on the wall, distracting us and bothering other climbers. I finally had to say, "no more dog" please.  

17 Jan 2003 23:11
Anonymous
yeah, at crowded crags with lots of other people, dogs are kind of a pain. especially when you have multiple dogs thrown together, it's pretty distracting. i only take my dogs with me to an obscure local crag where the chance of seeing other people, let alone dogs, is pretty slim.  

17 Jan 2003 23:11
Anonymous
Bring the Dog . . . don't listen people like roninthorne who clearly has serious issues . . . but do listen to the advice of others cautioning and recommending behavior . . . be considerate of others, understand that they may have a great deal of fear, and respect their enjoyment by cleaning up after your dog, always keeping it on a leash and taking proper care of the dog (bring at atleast as much water for the dog as you do for yourself, givin the size of your dog probably more that you would bring for yourself, somewhere in the neighborhood of a gallon for a day). Be ware of parks that don't allow dogs, and respect this restriction . . . but if dogs are allowed just be considerate and mindful of others, you and your pooch have as much of a right to enjoy the ootdoors as anyone else . . . but you have to take the responsibility for the dog's actions, every rule you follow for yourself you need to enforce for your dog, particularly in terms of pack it in pack it out, leave no trace, minimizing impact etc . . .  

17 Jan 2003 23:12

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